If it came down to endurance, Tex would still win because her body is mechanical, and can go so much longer than any biological body, no matter how much of a juggernaut it is. When it comes to man vs machine, the fleshy one always looses.
Also, for the record, Tex DID get shot in the arm, and still took down 3 top-ranked freelancers in Season 9, and that was before she got all her crazy enhancements. Maine improved when he became the Meta, but so has Tex.
The only reason he won was A) he got in a lucky shot, and B) because he had Wash's help. In fact, the only reason that he got in that lucky shot was because Tex was still recovering from a direct hit she took from WASH. Tex was wiping the floor with the guy before Wash interfered.
Still, I'm not saying Maine/Meta is a whimp, because the fight would definitely be close, but Tex simply has more skill, where Meta's just brute force.
I dissagree. Maine would just keep coming until he got her, regardless of how many times she hits him down. I also dissagree with the fleshy losing against the machine part. There has been countless films as such where the flesh beats the metal. She got shot in the arm when she's metalic, and was down for five minutes. Meta got stabbed in the chest by an energy sword when he's fleshy, and didn't even flinch...See my point?
Yes, in season nine Maine wasn't as strong as he was in the later story plots, no doubt there, Tex kicked his ass in that time.
Maine didn't actualy just improve as the Meta, he improved as himself aswell. Remember, Maine didn't have the A.Is or was able to use armour abilities when he killed Tex.
He didn't get a lucky shot, he knew exactly that if he shot the ground that it would play out like that, which is why he done it; Shot the ground at her feet. Remember, he was just as much in the damage range of the brte shot blast as Tex was, which is clear demonstration that Maine's endurance is and always would be Tex's downfall. Are you going to tell me that while Tex had an assault rifle, battle rifle, explosions (twice in the fight), turrets, and a knife, all used directly on Maine, that Maine using one brute shot round (that he would of been hit just as much as Tex) was classed as a "lucky shot"? I doubt that. Actually, if you watch carefully, Tex gets back on her feet and is in fighting ability after she gets up from the shot Wash gives her. It's Maine's endurance that is what would always be Tex's downfall. She sliced him up, stabbed him in the back (Which would be fatal to any normal person and Tex) and yet he still killed her.
You have to remember, Maine was blown up at the start of the fight by Tex's explotions and had all that equipment...If anyone had more backup power, it's Tex.
Tex only needs to be hit once, and that's it, she's done. Her speed is the only thing that keeps her alive. Maine's ultimate endurance is what keeps him alive. The difference is, if Tex is hit, she's almost certain to be killed by the first hit or is defenseless against the next killing blow, where as Maine can get hit, and it doesn't matter, he keeps coming. He doesn't need to dodge a hit, he can take the hit.
I'm not saying Tex is crappy, I'm not even saying that she wouldn't most likely do the best moves, I'm saying ultimatly, she will lose due to her not having much to any endurance.
Wash merely shortened the fight length. Yes, Tex would make it very VERY hard for Maine to land a hit, but it would be harder, to near impossible, for Tex to land a hit on Maine that would actually hurt him.
Maine has been shot in the throat nine times, stabbed by an energy sword through the chest, sliced in the stomach, stabbed in the back and the chest, shot by a turret, shot by shotguns, and shot by a sniper (Which is how Tex died before, being shot by a sniper) and quite a few more.
It is debatable who would win, but the show makes it obvious that Maine has been able to take everything thrown at him, where as Tex can't.
Dude, I'm not gonna argue with most of this response, since it needs a freakin hardcover and a letter to the editor page.
The one thing I will argue with is that Tex is not easy to kill. the only reason she went down with one hit from the Meta and the sniper is because both were headshots, which is always an instant kill. Granted, Meta gets points for getting shot a dozen freakin times in the neck, but there's nothing to suggest Tex couldn't survive just as much. She's taken plenty of punishment and gotten right back up, she's just better at avoiding it. Meta may be an immovable object, but Tex is the complete package.
Also, when I was talking about man vs machine, I was mainly talking about if it came down to a battle of endurance, which, let's face it, even John Conor can't run forever. Though, to his credit, Meta is probably the only human who could literally crush a robot with his bare hands, but he'd have to catch it first. I' not saying Meta wouldn't stand a chance, but Tex just stands a better better.
...We aren't arguing, are we? I thought we were just having a conversation on the subject...I hope you don't have the impression I'm trying to argue with you here.
Anyway, onto the reply on topic
I never said Tex was easy to kill, I thought I made that much clear in some point of my reply. I'd say she's the second character to be the hardest to take down, infact just recentlt I thought she was the best, until I properly took Maine's abilities into consideration. She went down for five minutes by a wound to the arm...I don't think it makes sense that she can take as much damage as Maine but not a shot to the arm...Does that make much sense to you? Clearly you're a pretty smart person, so it should be clear that Tex can't endure a whole lot due to the shot to the arm example. So yes, there is enough to suggest Tex wouldn't be able to handle as much; The arm wound by a single bullet.
What damage has she directly taken and then continued to get up? That's not me being sarcy, that's me actually asking. If you could give me a season and an episode so I can check it out myself, that would be great.
Like I said, that's her strong point, her speed. I dissagree about her being the complete package. Maine has shown himself to be a far better freelancer, simply because he progressed to being able to kill three to four freelancers that were all much higher ranked/skilled than him on the freelancer level list (from season 9), he also killed including Tex. He wasn't even on the top five, and yet he killed people that was explained to be better freelancers than Washington (Number 5 on the list) by Delta.
If she was the 'complete package' then how come Maine could survive the planted explsions that were larger than that single brude shot...shot, and yet maine survived it all? Surely 'the complete package' would have a far higher endurance level, but so far it has shown that she has got to be the freelancer with the least endurance. Every explosion Tex was in on that fight, Maine was in the receiving end of the damage aswell, and yet he got up like it was nothing.
Oh, I thought you meant just full on man vs machine. Yeah, I guess that would be right. But, if that's so, then how come Tex (You said she had a machine body) still have such a low level of endurance compaired to Maine? Surely that argument only strengthens my point about Maine than it does your point about Tex.
I honestly don't think she could ever "kill" Maine, I think Maine can kill Tex though. By that I mean that if it came down to an enviroment like the snow area, where there was nearly no-where to get away or imprison the Meta, then Tex wouldn't stand a chance in the long run. Yeah, she would definetly do all these amazing moves, really make it appear like she's winning but it would only give the appearance of it. Surely you remember Tex doing that back breaker move on Maine, and Maine still not stopping, even though it would of broke the back of any normal person. Eventually Maine would catch her off gaurd, and that's all he needs to do (which is usually how most fights are won). It would be long, I would even say that Maine would only be able to land about a quarter of the hits Tex would of landed on Maine, but that's all Maine needs due to his strength and Tex's low endurance; Quarter of the hits Tex would of landed, maybe even less.
I think the only way she would be able to beat Maine would be for her to trap him somewhere. In a physical fight, she wouldn't be able to kill him or beat him.
This is why Maine was the main antagonist of those seasons. Tex isn't an unstoppable force or an un-movable object. Although she's good, she lacks one, if not the main, thing that's needed in combat; Endurance.
Yeah, like Maine as Maine would lose to her hands down, but when he was the Meta, he had three A.I.s and couldn't touch her. It took him till he got Wash's help to kill her, and even then was using her power against her.
I agree with you. In a regular fight, no armour or weapons, tex would kick Maine's ass.
York was ranked the 2nd best Freelancer, and I doubt he got that far on hacking skills alone. Wyoming was 3rd, and though I'm not sure, I'm tempted to believe Maine was #7. Whether they were fighting as a team or not, beating 3 top-ranked Freelancers is damn impressive .